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Startuplander's avatar

Such a good piece. Feel like I just got a full credit in Classics. Def. feel this--raised Presbyterian, and Quaker for a period. Felt at home in both traditions. Now, I walk past all these churches in downtown Toronto with their Progressive Pride flags and feel grief--and I'm fucking gay. But when I read the Odyssey I found myself thinking, "yes! YES!"

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I’m grateful you took the time to write this thorough and well thought-out essay. I should say though that this caught my attention.

“Roman Hellenism was never a universalist religion. It arose from the religious and metaphysical grammar of the Indo-European world. This includes the Greeks, Romans, Persians, Celtic and Germanic peoples. Their traditions share a deep structural kinship by origin.”

True as far as it goes, but from early to late, Greek and Roman religion were heavily influenced by the Semitic East and the traditions of the indigenous people there when the IE peoples arrived. Classical Greek religion was by far the least characteristically IE of the lot; Roman religious practice derived greatly from the non-IE Etruscans, etc. in its later stages, Greco-Roman religious practice had been absorbing eastern ideas for centuries, everything from Nabatean Solar Monotheism to Zoroastrian-derived Mithraism to the Cult of Isis, and so on. To the degree it can be called a distinct religion, it’s that of a polyglot, multiracial, multiethnic empire.

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